all right we are here in the hardware
hacking village with crawler and he has
been a goon he's been a village runner
he has done a little bit of everything
but i felt like
he is so helpful to hardware hacking
village i wanted to just talk to him so
crawling how long have you been coming
to defcon
uh since defcon 20.
holy cow that's like we're almost on
nine years at this point
so what what has been how has the
village been going so far this year it's
been fantastic everybody's been very
chill they're
very good and they're helping each other
yeah so like what have you seen anything
really cool like we're standing in front
of this cash register right now you said
a couple people have coming up to it
like what have they been doing with it
they
well it's been sitting in my garage for
two years
and they hacked it so that they could
open the door and see what's in it they
printed out a bunch of stuff off of the
printer or the the paper they've done a
lot of things to it so
that's so cool
so i probably have to have it back in my
garage
i'm i'm laughing because it's funny we
always look around at the soldering you
always have new solders who learn how to
solder but we almost forget like a lot
of the hardware hacking that happens is
beyond soldering beyond badge like it
comes down to like hacking cash
registers what what do you think is like
one of the coolest things that has
happened this year in the hardware
hacking village probably this thing i
would say
i mean having it print out things that
it was never intended to print is
definitely accomplishment i mean like i
don't even know how you would plug into
this thing like they had to have dumped
firmware
they dumped firmware they
had some sort of battery i only saw it
briefly
but they
did
a lot with it i haven't seen it all yet
but
i'm anxious to see what happens when i
try and plug it in at home
it's always a little terrifying when you
like bring a piece of hardware to def
con leave it laying around seeing what
people can do with it and then you risk
when you plug it back in seeing what
it's actually going to do
now that's why we that's why we
do this we find random hardware yard
sales or
thrift stores and we bring it in to let
people play
it is always amazing the stuff that you
guys find to just toss out here i
noticed there's like a ton of circuitry
over there is that mainly to teach
people to desolder has anyone like
picked up something from over there and
got it to work
they have they've they used a
what was it a wireless
camera
that i had and threw it in there
but yeah those are just scraps for
anybody to use
and play with
it's funny every time i see that box
over there with all the hardware you
assume it's junk like people are gonna
just grab it desolder it pull parts off
but it's always hilarious when someone
grabs it and gets it working
and then starts adding extra
functionality in it like that is
absolutely like what hardware hacking is
all about now i do have a question which
is how does someone get started with
hardware hacking here like what's the
best place to start
come in sit down
find you find any of the other hardware
hackers who are here
have you found that everyone's really
approachable everyone is and they
they will
say oh you're having trouble let me help
this is what you should do
like that
i don't know what that was but
i think it was a vcr but now it's just
to teach people to solder or to play
with
i love that there's just like there's
vcrs there's wireless cameras there's
all sorts of random hardware there's
mobile phones i swear i see like a cell
phone from the 90s here like that is
absolutely incredible well crawling
thank you so much for your time
thanks for watching and hack on